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Supergrunged's picture
Saco, ME
Feb 2005
9 months ago

Okay, so I've been looking around, and seeing what's called P-94s, and P-100s.... Sound freaken awesome to me, and well, may work for my high gain situation. Leaning twords the p-100s as I prefer humbuckers, but not seeing any in humbucker sized????

Here's whats funny: Currently in my Les Paul, I have pickups from a '98 Gibson Flying V, and 1 Meg Ohm pots.....

Thinking about going some route like P-100s, but I'm definately open to suggestions. I don't exactly want to go the single coil route, but I'm thinking a fat tone clean, good under distortion.... Have a feeling, it would only be the neck pickup that gets switched out at that point, but suggestions, comments, and complaints :p

And I play metal, but I enjoy my clean jazzy tones too

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Originally Posted by jonny-b-brown
strats. It's like their own form of puberty.

 

malcom's picture
Broadripple Village
Nov 2002
7 months ago

I'm pretty certain a P-100 is intended to be a "noiseless" P-90. It probably will not be great for the metal tone you seek.

With these questions, it's always a great help to mention a few artists/bands whose tone you admire.

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roba03's picture
Dec 2005
3 years ago

Regardless of your metal inclinations I always prefer to have a single coil type sound in the neck. You might be able to get a coil tap on the pickup and that could be the ticket. Otherwise I would look into a humbucker sized p-90 I know more than a few different companies make them. P-rails might be the ultimate in versatility, are a direct replacement for hb sized pickups and they seem to be pretty popular at the moment thought I've never tried them so I can't comment on what they sound like.

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Supergrunged's picture
Saco, ME
Feb 2005
9 months ago
Originally Posted by malcom

I'm pretty certain a P-100 is intended to be a "noiseless" P-90. It probably will not be great for the metal tone you seek.

With these questions, it's always a great help to mention a few artists/bands whose tone you admire.

Bands are hard to mention these days.... Let's just say, I go from Bring Me The Horizon/ Cannibal Corpse/ The Black Dahlia Murder, with many others, to 80's Van Halen/ Steel Panther/ Dio, to jazzy stuff with the neck pickup, looking up more to gypsy jazz, Stochelo Rosenberg esque.....

I'm mainly looking into suggestions on what's out there, output shouldn't really be an issue, I really don't like Gibson burstbuckers, but love PRS McCarty's..... And now currently, I have pots that make humbuckers sound close to single coils, very full, but I'm looking for a more fatter "umph". I've heard many Jazzmasters, and really love the tone of them, but playing one, not really a fan.... Cool, and I'd like one, could get one, just well, I don't, I love my Les Paul more. I've also enjoyed the tones of the older mini humbuckers as well......

Guess I'd probly look into a more fatter sounding humbucker.... Just have a feeling, as the ouput goes up, I'm going to have to custom order higher resistance pots as well. Any help would be appreciated, but I'd really call this an open forum on pickups.....

Gibson Les Paul Standard that's been to hell and back with me, Charvel Model 6 modded to a 5FX, tortex wedge picks, Maxon OD-9, 80's Ibanez AD-9, Mesa Stuido .22 probably other stuff off my shelf
 

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Originally Posted by jonny-b-brown
strats. It's like their own form of puberty.

 

Insomniak's picture
Apr 2010
3 years ago

I posted before about P-100's, specifically the black soapbar ones mounted in my bandmate's Gibson ES-135.

I would not recommend them. Even in the bridge position with the knobs cranked to 10, they sound muddy and thick, not good for rock, not good for jazz, not good for anything. I honestly don't know what Gibson was thinking, they should've stuck with regular P-90's, or perhaps mini-humbuckers.

speaking of which, mini hums are probably what he's going to put in that guitar, on my recommendation, even though it will have to have the mounting screws drilled into the sides of the rout, because P-100's are mounted through the pickup like P-90's. The guitar itself just screams George Thorogood.

In short, you would have to BE on crack to put P-100's in anything.

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lobsty's picture
between Berlin and Melbourne...
Nov 2003
3 years ago

The Fralin Split Single p92's could be worth investigating - humbucker sized hum cancelling p90 style pickups. Haven't tried them myself but I've always been curious... don't have a suitable guitar for them but often consider getting a Les Paul or something and putting them in...

Crustaceo ergo sum

Supergrunged's picture
Saco, ME
Feb 2005
9 months ago
Originally Posted by lobsty

The Fralin Split Single p92's could be worth investigating - humbucker sized hum cancelling p90 style pickups. Haven't tried them myself but I've always been curious... don't have a suitable guitar for them but often consider getting a Les Paul or something and putting them in...

okay... !@#$ I NEED THOSE!!! Just looked, and they can wind them quite hot!!!! Yes, !@#$en A, I NEED THEM!!!! Sound like exactly what I'm looking for!

Gibson Les Paul Standard that's been to hell and back with me, Charvel Model 6 modded to a 5FX, tortex wedge picks, Maxon OD-9, 80's Ibanez AD-9, Mesa Stuido .22 probably other stuff off my shelf
 

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Originally Posted by jonny-b-brown
strats. It's like their own form of puberty.

 

fiveways's picture
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Sep 2002
1 year ago

P100's are just fine for metal. I use them often.

No one has to be alright all of the time.

Supergrunged's picture
Saco, ME
Feb 2005
9 months ago
Originally Posted by fiveways

P100's are just fine for metal. I use them often.

Also have 1 Meg ohm pots, which makes just fine for metal, more metal :p Don't know much, as I've always been using hot pickups, from Duncan Livewire Metals, EMGs, Duncan Invaders, Gibson 498 and 500Ts, used JBs and Dimarzio Distortions for a while..... In the neck, the 496 or 490 for Gibsons, Duncan 59 or the stock pickup.... I've had too many pickups, and so far, I can not say I've honestly truly been happy with my cleans and distorted tones..... I'd basically like to be able to go from Janis Joplin to Cannibal Corpse with the same pickups....... Only though I had was going back to a strat......

Gibson Les Paul Standard that's been to hell and back with me, Charvel Model 6 modded to a 5FX, tortex wedge picks, Maxon OD-9, 80's Ibanez AD-9, Mesa Stuido .22 probably other stuff off my shelf
 

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Originally Posted by jonny-b-brown
strats. It's like their own form of puberty.

 

lobsty's picture
between Berlin and Melbourne...
Nov 2003
3 years ago
Originally Posted by Supergrunged

okay... !@#$ I NEED THOSE!!! Just looked, and they can wind them quite hot!!!! Yes, !@#$en A, I NEED THEM!!!! Sound like exactly what I'm looking for!

Let me know if you get some - I'm very curious about these suckers and my experience with other Fralins has been nothing short of awesome.

Crustaceo ergo sum

keksdose's picture
northern krautland
Nov 2006
Today
Originally Posted by Supergrunged

[...]
I've heard many Jazzmasters, and really love the tone of them, but playing one, not really a fan.... Cool, and I'd like one, could get one, just well, I don't, I love my Les Paul more. [...]

It might need a bit modification: how about jazzmaster pick-ups in a les paul?? I would certainly be interested to learn how that sounds like!!