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ExpAnonColin's picture
Rochester
Sep 2003
7 years ago

http://www.musictoyz.com/guitar/pedals/tip.php

The TIP 3rd hand. It looks better than the hot foot in that the cable is skinner (the original hot foot's cable was so large that sometimes it flipped over the box it was trying to turn the knob of), as is the knob-turner, and it's not a hexagonal set screw...

But, how many of the flaws are still there? Now that the cable is smaller there is the possibility of tension coming up in the cable itself instead of the knob turning, resulting in sort of "delayed" knob turns or even no turning at all, especially with knobs with more friction such as the Small Stone and Small Clone ones. The knob-turner might still be a bit big to be able to use on BOSS pedals. What about pots that are inside dipped parts of an enclosure? Can it get in there? And, is it worth $100 to do something that a 1/8" or smaller stereo jack (that would most likely fit in every pedal out there in place of the knob) and a wah fitted with the correct pot value for $30 can do flawlessly? I guess that depends on how well it works. The advantage obviously being that you could rip off all of your knobs and switch mid show... but I'd personally prefer to decide beforhand and just have a lot of EXP pedals.

-Colin

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preservation's picture
richmond, va
Sep 2002
11 years ago

holy crap, $100 to turn a knob ?

i could hire children and smart pets to do that for less.
still interesting if they were $15.

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scarr's picture
Space City, TX
Jul 2004
9 years ago

I agree. It's an awesome concept (I didn't know about the Hot Foot before), but $100 for that kind of control is nutty. The one thing I have to say about the "wah mod" version is that if you're running actual audio through the pot (not just control), you're going to have to be careful about the integrity and quality of that path. The nice thing about this manual system is that it's not invasive to the pedal, so you can use it on vintage pedals that you don't want to tamper with. If someone starts making these for a third (or less) of the cost though, I'd end up with a small army of realtime controllers. :)

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Motorhead_2's picture
Toronto
Aug 2003
3 months ago

I'd love to have that for my MxR Phase 90.

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thurston's picture
Boise, ID
Jun 2003
5 years ago

The first time I saw the hot foot, I was wondering if you could make something similar with a busted wah and a flex shaft for a dremel tool. I never did get around to trying it.
This one looks pretty clean though.

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fiveways's picture
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Sep 2002
1 year ago

IF someone makes a cheap ass version i will buy....14-16 of them.

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coldbuggin's picture
brooklyn
Jun 2003
5 years ago

definitely a cool idea...$100?!? not a chance.

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ExpAnonColin's picture
Rochester
Sep 2003
7 years ago

Come on guys, $100 isn't outrageous. OK, it is, but the enclosures are clearly custom made and the mechanics inside of it to get the treadle motion to turn a gear that turns the cable which is vertical is not easy ****. That's mechanical, not electrical, and I could never do that.

Scarr, you have a goodpoint about it being uninvasive.

-Colin

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coldbuggin's picture
brooklyn
Jun 2003
5 years ago

Originally posted by ExpAnonColin
Come on guys, $100 isn't outrageous. OK, it is, but the enclosures are clearly custom made and the mechanics inside of it to get the treadle motion to turn a gear that turns the cable which is vertical is not easy ****. That's mechanical, not electrical, and I could never do that.

Scarr, you have a goodpoint about it being uninvasive.

-Colin

it makes me think i could get my mechanic friends to make one for me. it'd be cool if the treadle was smaller. though the control wouldnt be nearly as good, i hate to take up pedalboard space with footswitches,tuners,ect....but thats just me.;)

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coldbuggin's picture
brooklyn
Jun 2003
5 years ago

Originally posted by coldbuggin
it makes me think i could get my mechanic friends to make one for me. it'd be cool if the treadle was smaller. though the control wouldnt be nearly as good, i hate to take up pedalboard space with footswitches,tuners,ect....but thats just me.;)

errr....joysticks:D

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scarr's picture
Space City, TX
Jul 2004
9 years ago

Eh, who needs to be in tune anyway? ;)

If your friends could make them cheap & frequently, I'm sure they could sell a good number on this board. You also don't have to make tredles be the size of your foot just because you put your foot on them.

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